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Document number: 5524
Date: 06 Nov 1857
Recipient: COTTRELL George Edward
Author: TALBOT William Henry Fox
Collection: British Library, London, Manuscripts - Fox Talbot Collection
Last updated: 1st September 2003

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Cottrell

Nov 6 /57

I shd be hppy to see Mr W. Sarl whnevr he liks to call here, but I sh be leavg home abt ye 20th of this mth for Edinb. where I am gng to spnd most pt of ye Winter

It wd not be wth my whle, for a triflg income, to have t compenste my farmrs for loss of land danger & severance – and after all pps they wd throw up thr farms – At all evets a compl. chnge wd have t be made in ye mngt of yt pt of my Estate, & to make that desirable wch wd not be wthwhile unless ye ^mining works must be ^(were undtkn) ^of at all on a lge scale.

Your judgnt as well as my own must be foundd ultly upon the facts & figures

Part of ye land in questn at N.more is in Settlet & I wish <illegible deletion> say that & ∴ I must obsve, that any agreemt wch I may make wth y. respectg it, will require ye agremt of my trustees – I have no dbt they wd will const t anythg that apprs benefl to the estate, still you will have the goodness to consider any engagemt as provisl I may make on ye subjt wch may be made as provisl only, until assentd to by ym so far as their <illegible deletion> their assent is necessary –

I have collected some further facts and figures, to assist the judgmt & elucidate the questn – Since much depends upon the correctness of the figures, you will much greatly oblige me by correcting them if errors & stating the true figures –

1. I am informed that the Seend royalty ^at 1st pd to Mr Locke at Seend is was 1/6 pr ton. I think no one will say that the ore of Nmore is inferr to that of the S. ore. It is < here?> No doubt ye statemt that the royalty now paid of 1/ is

No doubt ye statt is perfty correct that the royalty now paid is ^only 1/ but then I am informd, that this 6d <illegible deletion> reductn was made in considn of a large sum of money pd down, ^so that in fact the that portn of ye royalty is capitalized If so, you will see that in order to give the subject the <illegible deletion> benefits of a fair & full discussn it will be necessry to

that if we are to treat the subjt of the royalty fairly and fully we must start from the fact that 1/6 pr ton was considered a fair royalty at Seend by the parties to that agreemnt. –

2dly A calcn of ye expence of carriage of ore to Staffdsh gives as follows –

Messrs S. havg contrtd, as I am told, wth ye GWR t carry the ore at 7/16 of 1d pr ton p. mile, & ye distce fm Chipp to Whn bg 129 m. (or say 130) ye expense of carrge wll be 4/9. Or Addg 6d for ye carrge by canal to Chipp. (3 m.) and 6d more for ^terminal chges and Sundries, it will ^come to a total of 5/9 – If there are ^any or chges on ye transit of ye ore, they escape me –

My workmen are still engaged deepng ye pits on ye hill, but ye wet weather is much agst ym

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Cottrell

November 6, 1857

I should be happy to see Mr William Sarl <1> whenever he likes to call here, but I should be leaving home about the twentieth of this month for Edinburgh, where I am going to spend most part of the Winter.

It would not be worth my while, for a trifling income, to have to compensate my farmers for loss of land danger and severance – and after all perhaps they would throw up their farms – At all events a complete change would have to be made in the management of that part of my Estate, and to make that desirable which would not be worthwhile unless the mining works must be (were undertaken) of at all on a large scale.

Your judgement as well as my own must be founded ultimately upon the facts and figures

Part of the land in question at Nethermore <2> is in Settlement and I wish <illegible deletion> say that and therefore I must observe, that any agreement which I may make with you respecting it, will require the agreement of my trustees – I have no doubt they would will consent to anything that appears beneficial to the estate, still you will have the goodness to consider any engagement as provisional I may make on the subject which may be made as provisional only, until assented to by them so far as their <illegible deletion> their assent is necessary –

I have collected some further facts and figures, to assist the judgement and elucidate the question – Since much depends upon the correctness of the figures, you will much greatly oblige me by correcting them if errors and stating the true figures –

1. I am informed that the Seend royalty at first paid to Mr Locke at Seend is was one shilling six pence per ton. I think no one will say that the ore of Nethermore is inferior to that of the Seend ore. It is here No doubt the statement that the royalty now paid of one shilling is

No doubt the statistic is perfectly correct that the royalty now paid is only one shilling but then I am informed, that this six-pence <illegible deletion> reduction was made in consideration of a large sum of money paid down, so that in fact the that portion of the royalty is capitalized<.> If so, you will see that in order to give the subject the <illegible deletion> benefits of a fair and full discussion it will be necessary to that if we are to treat the subject of the royalty fairly and fully we must start from the fact that one shilling six pence per ton was considered a fair royalty at Seend by the parties to that agreement. –

2dly A calculation of the expence of carriage of ore to Staffordshire gives as follows – Messrs Sarl having contracted, as I am told, with the Great Western Railway to carry the ore at 7/16 of one pence per ton per mile, and the distance from Chippenham to Wolverhampton being 129 miles (or say 130) the expense of carriage will be four shillings nine pence. Or Adding six pence for the carriage by canal to Chippenham (three miles) and six pence more for terminal charges and Sundries, it will come to a total of five shillings nine pence – If there are any other changes on the transit of theore, they escape me –

My workmen are still engaged deepening the pits on the hill, but the wet weather is much against them


Notes:

1. William Sarl of Sarl & Company, London.

2. Nethermore Farm and Wood, Lacock, Wiltshire

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