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Document number: 6508
Date: 07 Nov 1851
Recipient: RUSSELL John Scott
Author: TALBOT William Henry Fox
Collection: British Library, London, Manuscripts - Fox Talbot Collection
Collection number historic: LA51-77
Last updated: 10th March 2012

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Scott Russell Nov 7 / 51

I hve bn advsd b my frd Mr W. Cpml to write / you to call yr attn as Secy of ye Rl Commners t[o] certn proceedgs wch hve taken place under their authority (tho* scarcely wh their knowledge) in ye use of my photogrc invn by for obtaining phots of ye principl objts in ye Crystal palace.

Mr Carpml informs me that you are perfectly converst wth y law of pats and that he ﹤ he thinks it possible that you wd take ye same view of the matter that he does, on being informed of the circstces you would will be ready and willing to interpose your good offices to prevent other injurious conseqces [illegible deletion to me in conseqce of my my being a sufferer from having in full reliance upon ye good faith of the Exve Comtee consented to this use of my invn

To enter into details wd exceed the limits of st a note, I will therefore do myself ye pleasure to call tomorrow at 4 oclock at Gt George St trusting that it may be convent to you to have 5∩ converstn on ye subject 每

[expanded version:]

Scott Russell Nov 7 / 51

I have been advised by my friend Mr William Carpmael <1> to write to you to call your attention as Secretary of the Royal Commissioners to certain proceedings which have taken place under their authority (though scarcely with their knowledge) in the use of my photographic invention by for obtaining photographs of the principal objects in the Crystal Palace. <2>

Mr Carpmael informs me that you are perfectly conversant with the law of patents and that he therefore he thinks it possible that you would take the same view of the matter that he does, on being informed of the circumstances you would will be ready and willing to interpose your good offices to prevent other injurious consequences [illegible deletion to me in conseqce of my my being a sufferer from having in full reliance upon the good faith of the Executive Committee <3> consented to this use of my invitation.

To enter into details would exceed the limits of st a note, I will therefore do myself the pleasure to call tomorrow at 4 o*clock at Great George Street trusting that it may be convenient to you to have five minutes conversation on the subject 每


Notes:

1. William Carpmael (1804每1867), patent agent & engineer, London.

2. Designed by Sir Joseph Paxton (1801每1865) and erected in Hyde Park, London, 1850每1851, to accommodate the Great Exhibition of 1851. It was later moved to Sydenham Hill, South London, where a larger Crystal Palace was reopened in 1854. It was destroyed by fire in 1936.

3. The Executive Committee of the Great Exhibition. The photographs were eventually published in Exhibition of the Works of Industry of All Nations, 1851: Reports by the Juries. Four volumes, illustrated by original photographic prints from negatives by Hugh Owen and Claude Marie Ferrier. In the copies given to WHFT, a dedicatory sheet was inserted (most likely printed up by him): 'This Work, on the Results of the Great Exhibition of 1851, Illustrated with Photographic Plates, being One of Fifteen Copies Given by the Royal Commissioners to H.F. Talbot, Esq. of Lacock Abbey, as The Inventor of this Branch of the Photographic Art, was by him presented to _____'. This publication caused WHFT considerable consternation at the time, for he felt that the Commissioners had stealthily and unfairly taken the job of printing the plates away from Nicolaas Henneman. For a summary of this complex situation, see Nancy B Keeler, 'Illustrating the "Reports by the Juries" of the Great Exhibition of 1851; Talbot, Henneman, and Their Failed Commission,' History of Photography, v. 6 no. 3, July 1982, pp. 257-272.